Vanguard safety - Bogleheads (2024)

Vanguard safety addresses investor concerns that holding all their investments at Vanguard, an investment management company, may put their life's savings at risk.

Vanguard (and every other US-regulated mutual fund company) does not hold funds directly. Funds are held by 3rd party custodians.

Investors who remain uncomfortable holding all of their assets in Vanguard may hold their funds with alternative custodians.

What if Vanguard went broke?

The following explanation was posted by Mel Lindauer:

This is a very serious and timely issue, so I'll address it to hopefully set everyone at ease.

First, The Vanguard Group Inc. (VGI) is actually a subsidiary of the various mutual funds, each of which is a separate legal entity. The best way to describe Vanguard's unique structure would be to think of General Motors turned upside down, with Chevrolet, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, etc. as the corporate parents, and General Motors as a subsidiary. If you think of Chevrolet, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and the other GM divisions as mutual funds, and General Motors (the subsidiary, in this situation) as Vanguard Group Inc., you'll get the picture.

Since VGI is actually owned and funded by the various mutual funds,[note 1] for all practical purposes, it won't go bankrupt unless all of the various mutual funds that support it went bankrupt. The only way that could happen would be for the value of all of the stocks and/or bonds held by each and every individual Vanguard mutual fund to go to zero. So, forget about Vanguard going bankrupt -- it just isn't going to happen.

It's also important to point out that even if VGI were to somehow go broke, VGI has no recourse to the assets of the funds. Rather, each fund's custodian holds that fund's assets. Even the fund managers do not have custody of their fund's holdings. They simply decide which stocks/bonds to sell, and the custodian actually delivers (in the case of a sale) or takes delivery (in the case of a purchase) of the actual asset.

Another huge and very important difference between Vanguard's mutual funds and the Enrons and WorldComs of the world is that Vanguard is required to "mark to market" (value each fund share based on the value of all of the fund's holdings) each day the market is open. That keeps the fund's books current. This "marking to market" pricing is subject to both routine and spot audits by both the SEC and the Pennsylvania Department of Banking.

One major reason for the lack of problems with mutual funds comes from the fact that they're regulated by the Investment Company Act of 1940, which spells out the legal responsibilities of the mutual funds to their investors. In addition to the provisions of the Investment Company Act of 1940, the SEC also directly regulates mutual funds. While the SEC can investigate fraud allegations against investors at public companies like Enron and WorldCom, where the accounting is much more complex than at mutual funds, it has no authority to set corporate governance rules for these public companies. These are huge differences.

Keep in mind, too, that, despite all of this, if something were to happen to the Vanguard Group (the entity that provides the fund with the administrative services they need to exist), the funds would continue to operate and would simply replace VGI with another entity to provide these same services.

Some have expressed concerns about putting "all their eggs in one basket" by consolidating their investments at Vanguard. There's simply no need to worry about that. Each fund is a separate investment company (and part owner of the Vanguard Group, rather than the other way around). Thus, having all of your investments in several Vanguard funds is tantamount to having your investments spread among a variety of baskets, each independent of the other. So, put your fears to rest; your investments are safe at Vanguard.

— Mel Lindauer, All my eggs in one basket?[1]

Custody

One of the warning signs of the Ponzi schemes conducted by Bernie Madoff and Stanford Financial was that both institutions self-custodied their assets. That is, the same institution was responsible both for managing the assets and for holding them.

By contrast, Vanguard (and every other US-regulated mutual fund company) must custody their assets with a third party. Many of the funds managed by Vanguard have their assets held with JPMorgan Chase.[2] JPMorgan is audited by PriceWaterhouseCoopers,[3] which provides additional, independent verification that Vanguard's funds hold what they're supposed to.

Alternative custodians

While there are many safeguards in place, as described above, some investors remain uncomfortable with the idea of investing entirely through a single custodian or are forced to diversify due to employer contribution plans. For many fund types, it is difficult to find similar availability at close to or equally low cost. However, there are some exceptions for those who seek (or are forced) to diversify custodians.

For example, many alternatives for a Three-fund portfolio are discussed in the "Other than Vanguard" section of that article.

Notes

  1. As of the close of fiscal year 2017, each Vanguard mutual fund (with the exception of fund-of-funds) has contributed 0.01% of its assets into Vanguard Group Inc. (VGI) The investment is included in the net asset value of each fund, and can be found under the "Other Assets and Liabilities" section of the "Statement of Net Assets - Investments Summary" in the annual and semi-annual reports. The funds can commit a maximum of 0.40% to VGI's capital base. The total book value of VGI, as of 2017, is approximately $250,000,000. See the reports for details.

See also

  • Fidelity
  • The Vanguard Group

References

  1. Bogleheads forum post: "All my eggs in one basket?", Mel Lindauer. February 4, 2008
  2. Some Vanguard funds use other custodians, including The Bank of New York Mellon, Brown Brothers Harriman & Co., and State Street Bank and Trust Company; see Vanguard's publication, "Your safety is a priority with us"
  3. JPMorgan Chase FAQ, under "Who is JPMorgan Chase's independent auditor?"

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Vanguard safety - Bogleheads (2024)

FAQs

Is Vanguard a safe place to keep your money? ›

Rest easy knowing the cash in your Vanguard Cash Plus bank sweep is eligible for FDIC coverage up to $1.25 million for individual accounts and $2.5 million for joint accounts. You can keep all your money in the bank sweep or diversify into 5 available Vanguard money market funds (each with a $3,000 minimum investment).

Is Vanguard a safe investment platform? ›

Is Vanguard a safe company to invest with? Yes, Vanguard is a very reputable broker with a long track record, dating from 1975. It is overseen by the Securities and Exchange Commission and FINRA, both of which are independent regulatory agencies.

Is Vanguard safe from collapse? ›

So, what if Vanguard's brokerage fails? First, the chances of Vanguard failing are miniscule. That said, let's talk about brokerage accounts for a minute. Brokerage accounts are not backed by the FDIC but by the Securities Investor Protection Corp (SIPC), which protects accounts up to $500,000.

How safe is Vanguard brokerage? ›

Brokerage accounts hold investments such as stocks, bonds, and mutual funds, which aren't insured by the FDIC. Vanguard accounts are protected by Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) insurance. This insurance covers up to $500,000 in securities and up to $250,000 in cash if the firm fails.

What happens if Vanguard collapses? ›

The securities that underlie the funds are held by a custodian, not by Vanguard. Vanguard is paid by the funds to provide administration and other services. If Vanguard ever did go bankrupt, the funds would not be affected and would simply hire another firm to provide these services.

Why are investors pulling money from Vanguard? ›

When the market cratered, investors withdrew $16.4 billion from Vanguard's index mutual funds. What accounts for remaining index mutual fund outflows? Johnson says it could be clients pulling out money because they're retiring, or because they're negatively affected by the pandemic.

Could Vanguard ever go under? ›

Each fund also owns the individual securities (stocks and bonds, for example) that make up the fund, and there's no way for a fund to go bankrupt unless every security simultaneously loses all value (an event that would reach far beyond Vanguard if it were to occur).

Which is safer, Schwab or Vanguard? ›

Is Charles Schwab better than Vanguard? After testing 18 of the best online brokers, our analysis finds that Charles Schwab (96.6%) is better than Vanguard (80.3%).

Why not invest in Vanguard? ›

Vanguard's platform is geared toward buy-and-hold investors, not active traders. While the platform gets the job done (i.e., you can enter orders), there aren't any bells and whistles. The order entry process is clunky and not particularly intuitive, and there's no real-time data until you open a trade ticket.

Is it safe to keep more than $500,000 in a brokerage account? ›

They must also have a certain amount of liquidity on hand, thus allowing them to cover funds in these cases. What this means is that even if you have more than $500,000 in one brokerage account, chances are high that you won't lose any of your money even if the broker is forced into liquidation.

Why do people prefer Vanguard over Fidelity? ›

While both institutions offer robo-advisors, Vanguard's Personal Advisor Services, which is available to clients who can meet a $50,000 account minimum, offers a little more hands-on investment guidance and assistance with portfolio construction. Vanguard also has slightly lower expense ratios on its index funds.

What are the cons of Vanguard? ›

Cons
  • Relatively high minimum investment requirements for many fund options.
  • Higher-than-average per-contract options fee.
  • Slow process to open an account.
  • No trading platform for active traders.
  • No fractional shares of stocks or ETFs.
Mar 22, 2024

Is my money secure in Vanguard? ›

Money market funds and other securities held in the Vanguard Brokerage Account are eligible for SIPC coverage. Securities in your brokerage account are protected up to $500,000. To learn more, visit the SIPC's website. Up to $250,000 by FDIC insurance.

Is my money protected with Vanguard? ›

Your money is ring-fenced in the unlikely event that we became insolvent. Clients are also covered by the Financial Service Compensation Scheme (FSCS). For further details, go to FSCS or you can discuss this with us. You can see our current and previous cash interest rates in the table below.

Can Vanguard money market lose money? ›

Can I lose money when I invest in money market funds? Yes. Although money market funds seek to maintain a stable $1 share price, capital preservation is not guaranteed.

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